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Poster: elmagno Date: Nov 12, 2007 2:58pm
Forum: feature_films Subject: One to move to Feature Films (Master Touch)

http://www.archive.org/details/Mastertouch

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Poster: Westwind Studios Date: Nov 13, 2007 7:17pm
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: One to move to Feature Films (Master Touch)

At the risk of sounding like I am complaining again the Mp4 posted for master touch may have some problem, getting an error from nero and quick time won't play it! recoding it now with Super C sometime it'll fix stuff sometime it can't just though maybe some of you wiser folk might check it out for the rest of us!

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Poster: Westwind Studios Date: Nov 13, 2007 8:47pm
Forum: feature_films Subject: Master Touch may need some repair

well I got it to work repairing the file with super c software anyone else may need to do the same! better if it was right to begin with, right?

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Poster: Plan 9 Date: Nov 13, 2007 9:47pm
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Master Touch may need some repair

This time you were polite, Leo. Way to go! :)
May I ask if you also downloaded the MP4 of Mr. Moto's Gamble?

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Poster: Westwind Multimedia Date: Nov 14, 2007 7:23am
Forum: feature_films Subject: mr moto gambles?

yes I think I did down load that why do you ask? as i remember there were problems I know two of the Moto's I downloaded where fine but think those were avi files of some kind I would have to go look them up

Just want to say too that some times type or pint is misconstrued I did Not mean to come off the way I did and I now wait a day to post such things so I can "edit" that stuff out if I notice I did that, thanks for the lesson Plan 9! only meant to point out a common problem I myself have encounter over and over again here that was all!

would be great if we could post some help files for folks who really want to know how to do it right instead of this constant waste of server space, time, hardware and money? maybe they do already?

but really it is much easier to do it right anyway!

This mpeg4 file had some weird sample rate going for it, both audio and video maybe that's a standard some planet out there but I could not get it to play here till re-coding it to an avi! (works fine now but still badly coded)

I too believe this Archive is going to be one of the most important things on the internet in the future! I am concerned that users would or might take such an important task so lightly I guess, don't take this the wrong way but thats how it is with me.



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Poster: Plan 9 Date: Nov 14, 2007 6:53pm
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: mr moto gambles? Yes, he does!

Now I understand! Thank you, Leo. :)
I asked because I uploaded only avi files, and then IA somehow made the mpeg4s from those, not I. So I was confused when you reported having so much trouble, while others reported the exact opposite, because I thought all of you had downloaded the avi files. It was only when you mentioned here that you had to recode (?) this mpeg4 file that it occurred to me that you might not have downloaded the file I uploaded at all.

I can see, now that I've had a chance to get to know you a little better, that you're a good person who just happened to come across differently than you meant to, perhaps from a combination of lack of sleep and frustration? It is, indeed very easy to misunderstand each other's posts because we don't have tone-of-voice and gestures to guide us, as we do in face-to-face conversation.
However, I knew I had misjudged you when you apologised: it takes a big person to do that, Leo. Thank you! I hope, that you'll accept my apology in turn for any ill feelings I may have caused by posting too hastily in response? *blushes*

If there are help files here, I haven't come across them, and that's why I only uploaded one avi file per movie: I don't know much about converting files from one format to another, and I only have a little freebie conversion program, so I thought there was a good possibility that if I tried to provide everyone with a variety of file types, I would just screw them up somehow. As a matter of fact, I was quite surprised to see that IA had converted my avis to mpeg4s and thumb-nailed them after I uploaded them. I had assumed that IA's members were doing all that themselves somehow.

I, too, take this site very seriously: I believe the work the owner/admins of IA have taken on is very important indeed, and that we members should do all we can to contribute. Nevertheless, everyone occasionally makes a mistake, and I think that there may be an automatic program in place here to convert our uploaded files which may glitch now and then, so that admin help may be needed?

In any case, while I agree that we should make the staff and other members aware of problems as they arise so they can be corrected, it's important not to accidentally do so in a discouraging manner. I've been on the staff of internet sites before, so I know how much hard work goes into creating and maintaining far less complex sites than this, and I'm sure you'll agree that it can be time-consuming and tedious just to contribute a file as a member. I think it's easier all round to help build a wonderful resource like this if we do our best to keep our posts upbeat when having to discuss problems.

So, Leo, I feel I've learned a lesson from you, too. I plan to take this experience to heart; to try not to be so overly-sensitive in the future as to miss the opportunity to make a friend because of an easily corrected miscommunication, as I almost did in your case. Thanks again for being so gracious. I appreciate it. :)

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Poster: LordOfTheExacto Date: Nov 15, 2007 10:36am
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: mr moto gambles? Yes, he does!

I'd like to throw my apology in, too, as I kind of jumped on Leo as well. Handshakes all around?

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Poster: Westwind Studios Date: Nov 15, 2007 12:37pm
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: mr moto gambles? Yes, he does!

sure guy I am very appreciative and impressed by these two recent responses

maybe some sort of upgrade to this site is over due?

I have been downloading from here in feature Movies I think since it was it's 400 to 500 movie mark!

seen many changes to the basic site mostly in size not structure might be overdue for an overhaul?

but I think the lack of how these movies files are made and what the different files are and why they work why they don't is mostly a product of the of trail and error by it users? (or so it seems as I expressed before)

there must be a way to "inflect" some education on to those who wish to learn!

"Super C" is a free program by the way! someone posted a link to it here and It has worked great at fixing the "shakes" and the stopped and the weird audio problem most of the the time also good for coding to other fomats! any format actually! check it out!

I don't have the link but I think it could be found I'll look later and see if I can find a link and post it for you guy!

And yes they do recode your upload here to other formats!! the bigger the file you up load the more files the program will make so if you up load say a standard Avi full size not compressed it'll produce the other formats automatically!

BUT if you up load say a DivX or an mpeg4 those are compressed files, well thats all you get on the page I believe! so up load those big files hey as long as you know how and what that is, other wise it just a waste of our time, space and money I think

Wisdom is sometimes Best found within our self I think!

thanks again!

Hope it's a very long and fruitful friendship!

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Poster: Plan 9 Date: Nov 17, 2007 3:21am
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: mr moto gambles? Yes, he does!

Since the program encoded MPEG4s from them, I guess my avi files weren't compressed then?
I don't know anything about that, though, which is why I just upload and leave the encoding of different versions to IA.
I did find this review by davidlaska, though, when I was reading about a documentary here, and I thought it might be germane to this discussion:

"down loading mpeg 2 files and mpeg 1 and mp4 from any site can be a encoding problem when you try to watch. Go try a site with all the resources and still you may not be able to play the file smoothly. Try a mpeg2 file from nasa,s zoom to a city collection and see for yourself. I get around some of the encoding problems by have a mac and PC. This is not a archive.org issue only."

Thanks for the link to Super C. I'll download it and check it out!
I don't know if it will fix the problem I sometimes have when I download a film from IA, which is that, even though I've downloaded the full MPEG2, when I try to play it, my player shows it as being about a minute long and all I see is a black screen. Do you know?
So far, downloading the file over again has always solved that problem, so I guess it's not really that big a deal for me, even if Super C can't fix them?

I also hope it's a very long and fruitful friendship. I'd like that.
Handshakes all around! :)



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Poster: Westwind Multimedia Date: Nov 17, 2007 12:43pm
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: mr moto gambles? Yes, he does!

Well I think your article refers to another issue, lost data during transfer, there and thats is generally caused by server connection problems during hi traffic, your download description is another effect, thats why when you try again you get the whole file,

have you tried using a FTP program like Filezilla those programs will actually scan the download to see if it's all there, and you can resume, give your download a priority and alot of those issues your having problems with now with downloading would not be an issue then you can also use the program for uploading in the same way!

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Poster: Plan 9 Date: Nov 17, 2007 5:21pm
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: mr moto gambles? Yes, he does!

I've never used an FTP program to download files because I have no idea how to go about it, my friend. *sighs*
I'm almost entirely self-taught when it comes to using a computer, and I have found that a program's help files (when it offers them) are usually of little or no use to me because the creators of such files presume that those who consult them have at least some working knowledge which I don't actually possess.
The Super C program I downloaded is a good example of this: I know nothing about what settings I should use for bitrate and such, and the program doesn't tell me if the settings it has in place are default settings, or not, leaving me pretty much at a loss.
The other converter program I have is designed for use by people who know little or nothing, so it sets all the values for me, but it doesn't offer as many conversion options. A program which struck a happy medium between the two extremes would be nice, but such programs are hard to come by.

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Poster: Westwind Multimedia Date: Nov 17, 2007 6:41pm
Forum: feature_films Subject: it's all about choices! and which is the best!

30 fps and 41 to 48 hrz but think you have made my point about finding these standards out "before saving files here" would be a good thing don't you think wouldn't it

there are video help file around the internet actually after looking around this site there are some posted here that talk about frame rates and sample rate, even some stuff on stop frame stuff too, not hard to find just goggle it!

if the setting where not set right on your program you wouldn't know it?

Well also may I only suggest if your computer isn't set up right, not just the program, the rendered video could also have problems I would wonder about that as well?

more then just the programs you need that knowledge for! and you'll get a better result by far then not knowing! you'll see, that super C program IS all about those choices, all the choices you don't know about!

check them out!

This post was modified by Westwind Multimedia on 2007-11-18 02:37:44

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Poster: SpaceFan Date: Nov 18, 2007 1:28am
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: it's all about choices! and which is the best!

Encoding Parameters:
http://www.archive.org/about/faqs.php#146

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Poster: Plan 9 Date: Nov 18, 2007 1:39am
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: it's all about choices! and which is the best!

Why, thank you, SpaceFan! :)

This post was modified by Plan 9 on 2007-11-18 09:39:34

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Poster: Westwind Multimedia Date: Nov 18, 2007 9:07am
Forum: feature_films Subject: P2P Humm Be carful with those OK?

If I told you everything where would your pursuit of knowledge Go to satisfy it self?

P2P Humm watch your security with those, I have had clients systems completely taken over! so be careful, some of those program open ports and never shut them you know! terrants are pretty much the same way lots of open ports guy!

I would be very surprised If you haven't already had your system indexed by someone.

use'em at your own risk Only my opinion though!

anyway Space fan sent you a pretty good link there

As far as a good set up for video rendering goes my best tip there is a very good processors "at least" 2ghz lots and lot of ram "at least" 2 gigs or more and the best video card you can lay your hands on!

when we first started rendering video on computers here with windows movie maker on a windows 2000pro system that had a 1.6ghz amd processor fast for it's day it would take us 6 hours to render and burn 2 hours of dvd, now 4 year later we can do the same with a core 2 in less then an hour and a half so things are changing fast, now with high def and up to 38 gigs per disk things will be moving even faster then ever with all the new hardware coming out!the new Flash hard drives with no moving parts at all, I think will be a boom to the video market if that can bring the cost down!

so stay tuned! and read alot! you'll need to know this stuff to do good work!

Yep it's a hobby everyone needs one right!

and remember your basic computer stuff? crap in crap out still holds true today!

Say did you want me to try and explain how to use filezilla? maybe go to our site at www.westwindmultimedia.com and e-mail us from there, other wise I would say check there website out! FTP is pretty basic stuff and much much safer to use then the way your doing it, really!

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Poster: Plan 9 Date: Dec 1, 2007 10:06pm
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: P2P Humm Be carful with those OK?

Thanks for all your help and advice, Leo. :)
I like Filezilla: it has a couple of features which my previous FTP client doesn't.
The P2P client eMule offers the protection of an obfuscated connection, so don't worry, okay?

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Poster: Westwind Multimedia Date: Dec 2, 2007 5:56am
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: P2P Humm Be carful with those OK?

Your welcome, Emule dose have some issues but not as many as other P2P clients keep your firewalls burning folks!

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Poster: Plan 9 Date: Nov 18, 2007 12:44am
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: it's all about choices! and which is the best!

Yes, I certainly would need to know these standards before saving files here IF I were converting the files to different types first, but I'm not.
What I'm doing is downloading avi files through a P2P file sharing client and from Public Domain Movie Torrents, viewing them to be certain they aren't corrupted and are of reasonably good quality, uploading them (which is easy), and then checking members' reviews of those files to double check that they're getting good downloaded copies of the avi files, which they have been.
Since I don't know that the default settings on the one encoding program are correct for the needs of IA and I don't know how to set Super C, I haven't encoded any files for upload here. The mpeg4 file you had trouble with was encoded by IA, not I.

As for my PC, I always reboot and defrag it before uploading to IA, just as I always have before uploading to my own internet site, it's pretty new, it works fine, and it is uploading to both sites without a hitch. Why wouldn't it? This is the first I've heard of the idea that a PC has to be set up in a certain way in order to use an uploader (if I'm understanding you correctly, that is. I may not be!). Please explain further. :)

My friend, what keywords should I use to Google up the information I need to use the Super C program correctly?

Oh, and if you get tired of answering my questions, O Leo The Living Help File, just let me know, okay? No harm; no foul. :)

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Poster: flapfrog Date: Dec 7, 2007 1:53am
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: it's all about choices! and which is the best!

it aint bando-vilkey! lol